So for the first time ever I ordered the Extra Lasting Lip Stain. I ordered the Raspberry color. I used the lip balm first then the stain pencil. Glad I did. Since my skin tone is darker it worked. If I did the opposite based on the instructions it would have wash me out. Therefore I give this product 4 out of 5 stars. I will be ordering more lip stain. It's a great product for those f you who don't care for lipstick. Now I have to try the eye shadow pencils that I ordered. Stay tune for more.